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- Subject: Re: Possible loss of the Copper (was Re: AB3D II beats Quake....)
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 06:03:58 GMT
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- cbrown@armltd.co.uk (Chris Brown) wrote:
-
- >In article <2726.6661T189T1181@mbox.vol.it>,
- >Fabio Bizzetti <bizzetti@mbox.vol.it> wrote:
- >>
- >>You know how you can open a 1024*768 logical screen on Amiga, and scroll it on
- >>a 640*512 physical screen? 50 frames / sec scroll, with 0 CPU or AGA time.
- >>
- >>On a SVGA the scroll would be 2 frames / sec, with 100% CPU and SVGA use.
-
- >Sorry, that's nonsense. SVGA cards can do fullscreen scrolling just
- >like the Amiga can, the only difference being that parallax is easier
- >on the Amiga due to the planar display. I'm using a Linux box here
- >right now with a 1280*1024 screen, and it scrolls beautifully.
-
- >Give it up, for goodness sake. The days of custom hardware are
- >*over*. Today, the operating system is everything. You argue that
- >standard hardware will stop people writing Amiga games. Look around
- >you! The Amiga games market has gone, dead, finished, and you know
- >why? It's because the custom chipset makes games expensive to port,
- >and with a vastly smaller userbase it isn't practical. If the Amiga
- >used standard hardware, we'd get more games because porting them would
- >be very easy indeed.
- >--
- >/* _ */main(int k,char**n){char*i=k&1?"+L*;99,RU[,RUo+BeKAA+BECACJ+CAACA"
- >/* / ` */"CD+LBCACJ*":1[n],j,l=!k,m;do for(m=*i-48,j=l?m/k:m%k;m>>7?k=1<<m+
- >/* | */8,!l&&puts(&l)**&l:j--;printf(" \0_/"+l));while((l^=3)||l[++i]);}
- >/* \_,hris Brown -- All opinions expressed are probably wrong. */
- Give up what?, These custom chips have proven them selves time and
- time again. The pc clone wold has just recently started to catch up to
- the AMIGAS standard. Win 95 still wont multitask to the extent the
- AMIGA can, and to do it you need a shit load of CPU power and memory.
- Yes it well may do it on a 38x DX40 but bloody slooowly. Evan a 486
- can be slow at times. As for the graphics side of things, the AMIGA IS
- STANDARD for the AMIGA!!. What if we did all plug in the SVGA card,
- which one would we choose, the S3 or the Trident or pehaps the CIRUS
- Logic, or perhaps the 3000. They all come with their own drivers!,
- Why? i hear you ask, well its because none are compatible with
- eachother except in certain video modes and even then those can
- change. This does not stop here either, each program on the pee cee
- also has its set of drivers, eg autocad, windows, lotus, etc etc. Noe
- of these drives are a standard either one cant be used for the other,
- and therfore the packages need to be written for every sort of video
- avaiable. Now try to port youre stupid games over, wich standard are
- you going to use now eh?. The whole thing about a custom chipset was
- to remain compatible enhance the OS and free the CPU up for doing more
- important CPU things. The reason the OS does what it does so well is
- because of the very backbone it is sending its signals down THE BLOODY
- HARDWARE! I have a degree in computing and to this day we still have
- discussions on the efficencies of the AMIGAS design. Custom hardware
- does work it, look at sun, look at Intell, Intell processors are
- custom to Intell and pc's! this is a silly thing to say. The chipset
- in the amiga is the cpu to the IBM. the graphics of the AMIGA are not
- an IBM standard THEY ARE AN AMIGA STANDARD!!! Sun standard is SUN
- standard Mac is MAC etc, etc. This is why they are seperate companys,
- this is why the make profit. The only way an OS will run smoothly is
- if it compliments the hardware it is using. put 95 on your 386, it
- suxs but it could still be a good OS!. Nope I disagree with you
- extreamly the days of single CPU processing are gone. Mutli-processing
- is the way of the future, it has been a proven winner for more than 10
- years now. Good on the AMIGA, it is doing somthing new, doing a good
- job, lets see it improve.
- Adam.
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